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October 2014 Comment War

Date:

October 28, 2014 (2014-10-28)

Cause:

  • Free speech activism
  • Swearing

Status:

Jackninja5 Surrenders:

  • Turns out to be a troll
  • Criticises people with the troll
  • Jackninja5 befriends the troll
  • Start of another comment war

On a Jimmy Carr 9/11 joke video, Jackninja5 had been involved with one of his worst controversies of history of his channel. Jackninja5 had found someone talking against swearing so he said that "this is the internet. We all swear." However, it turned out that it was a troll, who he soon befriended. After that, he and the troll had been involved with another comment war but Jackninja5 had his own comment war on another comment.

War

Commenter: "That's no excuse, not swearing is incredibly on the internet, just don't type the words, simple." (October 27, 2014)



Jackninja5: "If you don't like the words, just don't use them" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "It's not as simple as that sir. It's like saying, if you don't like murder, then don't do it. That might be an extreme example but basically my point is people shouldn't try to justify or make excuses for bad behaviour." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "Profanity doesn't kill people though (most of the time :P)" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "As I said, it was an extreme example but bad language does have negative effects on society and can lead to violence but whether it leads to violence or not it is still something that should not be used. One of my life goals is to stop all swearing on the internet and it would be so much easier if people were more intelligent and not so stubborn.." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "Well, your goal will never work because we can say whatever the fuck we want. Fucking sue me" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "Just because you can say what you want doesn't mean you should does it? Your language is unnecessary and you would struggle to justify it in any way." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "But just because you hate swearing doesn't mean you have to shove it down our throats. Leave us alone. Trying to stop people from swearing will only increase their chances of swearing at you." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "Its not like I'm attacking your religion or way of life or anything, I'm against something that serves absolutely no purpose and is so incredibly easy not to do. Anyone who swears just because someone tells them not to is childish and immature and therefore socially and morally inferior to me." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "1. You can't attack my religion. I lack one. I'm an atheist. 2. It is not childish to swear because people say swearing is inappropriate for children. 3. I hate the word "selfie" but do you see me telling people not to use it?" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "Atheism is basically a religion. Adults are a lot more childish than children, children are basically just ignorant but adults act childish all the time and they should know better. I dislike that word too, as well as others like it, though they are not as rude and offensive to people, ive never heard anyone insult somebody by calling them a 'selfie' so as much as I don't like the word I have to prioritize." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "1. Atheism is not a religion. It denies religion. 2. I kinda agree with that one. Adults are hypocrites by telling children not to swear but yet they swear because "they are adults". I would let my children say whatever the want. 3. I hate the word because it is a bit of a childish one, like "onesie"." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "I don't like the word because its such a yuppie/consumer word that highlights perfect the steady decline of human intelligence due largely to people becoming too reliant on technology, which is also the reason why I hate the word 'apps'. Atheism is a religion because it has beliefs and rules and their are several atheist groups now that meet to discuss their beliefs just like a church." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "I am an atheist but I have no rules about it. I just deny religion. That's it. In fact, it is basically "criticism of religion"." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "You do have a rule, the rule is, to be an atheist you cant believe in a god or gods, If you break that rule you're no longer an atheist. I think you are confusing an atheist for an anti-theist. You can be an atheist without having any criticism of religion." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "That is not really a "rule". It is just something that many people don't like people doing :P" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "It is about as clear of a rule as you can get. It's a rule that is specific to the very definition of the belief." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "It is really a disbelief and if it is a religion, what about agnosticism?" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "agnosticism is somewhere inbetween depending how you define it, its basically an atheist though they are a more inclined to believe in supernatural/spiritual things and more open to believing in a god(s), an atheist doesn't believe in any of that stuff and an anti-theist dislikes religion and wouldn't follow a religion even if you have definitive proof that it was true. I didn't explain it the best but can you see the differences?" (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "I can because I know the differences but none of them are religions. Religions are basically theism." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "Well based on your earlier comments you didn't know the difference between atheism and anti-theism so I was just trying to determine what you meant. As I've already explained atheism has beliefs and rules and groups just like any religion. All religions have disbelief in theism, for example a Christian does not believe in Aztec or hindu gods and visa versa, atheism has a disabelief in theism just as religion does." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "But atheism is not a religion. It has no deities. You can look it up any time but all results will say it isn't a religion." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "I hope you dont mean look it up on google, cause that is the worst way to find information, especially on a topic like this. I've just explained why it is a religion, simply saying 'its not a religion' is not a counter argument." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "Look it up on anything. Even Google would say it is not a religion. There are many explanations on why it is not a religion and I gave reasons." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "You gave reasons and I came up with arguments that refuted those points, now it is your job to counter what I said (without simply repeating the same thing). I would only use google if I wanted to destroy my intelligence and understanding, I do proper research." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism Read the article. "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities"." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "If you use Wikipedia as evidence then that is embarrassing, if you used Wikipedia at university you would get an instant fail. There is more to a religion than the belief in a deity and it had nothing to do with the points that I made, I showed that atheism has beliefs and rules like a religion and you keep stating that atheist don't believe in a deity, which has nothing to do with my points." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "You are one biased person. You obviously don't know that Wikipedia has moderators and guess what? They can actually ban any spammers and protect pages and remove spam. Why don't you search up whether it is a religion yourself if you are so sure and show me proof? I don't think I would just believe you just because you say so" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "I didn't say you had to believe me because I say so, I said if someone refutes your point in a conversation you're supposed to come up with counter arguments, counter arguments are not redirecting the conversation without addressing the points and it is not posting random Wikipedia links as though it is law. I went to university, when you're of superior intellect you quickly learn that Wikipedia and google are rubbish and your teachers specifically tell you not to ever use them. In any case, I came up with some points that you did not answer, I cant google your answer because you have not given it yet and that's what I'm interested in, your answer, not Wikipedia's answer, you should be able to back up your own views on things without relying on a site to do it for you." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "Everyone knows it is rejecting deities. Just because it is on Wikipedia doesn't mean it isn't true. So I guess 9/11 isn't true then? (Keeping with topic to the video)" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "Yes, I also knew that, once again, that had nothing to do with the points I made yet I still stated that there is more to a religion than dieties. If you don't understand why you shouldn't use Wikipedia then I feel for you. However, for the sake of argument I will say on 9/11 two planes flew into the world trade centre and the buildings eventually collapsed, how and why this happened and who was responsible is open to interpretation unless you're gullible and stupid enough to believe what mainstream media and the government tell you (two of the biggest lying and deceptive institutions in the world). In a way, that is the difference between Wikipedia and proper research, Wikipedia will give you a basic, usually inaccurate or opinionated recount of events, when you do proper indepth research on ANYTHING you will find a completely different story which is usually open to your own interpretation of the evidence you have studied in depth." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "P.S are you saying that Buddhism or Satanism aren't religions? Neither of those have deities." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "1. Ever heard of sarcasm, you retard. 2. They obviously are but Satanism I'm not sure on since that is only really made to piss off Christians and worship evil...well fictional evil" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "No answer? I guess I won the argument. I don't know why I waste time on youtube, Im so much more intelligence than everyone." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "Jimmy Carr never swears? He swears a hell lot" (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "*No answer? I guess I won the argument. I don't know why I waste time on YouTube. I'm much more intelligent than everyone.

If you are, get your grammar right and read my answer, fuckwit." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "I have read the satanic bible and they do not worship any deity good or evil, it would have taken only basic research to know this so I don't think it is fair that you call me the retard. You tried to say Atheism isn't a religion because it doesn't believe in gods, I just provided two examples of religions that don't do this either, so can you admit that your argument is invalid? In regards to Jimmy Carr swearing, ever heard of sarcasm?" (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "But atheism is obviously not a religion. If anyone else replies to this, they will obviously know that is true. Atheism is really just growing out of your imaginary friend :P" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "Why are you resorting to name calling and rudeness? Is it because you're not as intelligence as me and have not done the research to have a well thought out argument? I have been polite to you despite your anger and rudeness towards me." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "You are not polite. In fact, your profile picture has Gary Glitter's boss." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "If you're so intelligent, use "intelligent" not "intelligence" and judging by your profile pic, you are very gullible" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "Who is Gary Glitter sir? I have been very polite, I have not sworn at you or insulted you as you have done everytime ive highlighted the flaws in your argument. When people have lost an argument its common to resort to insults. You also seem to be making insults towards religion (like the imaginary friend part with the :P face) which I don't understand why?" (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "You are insulting me by existing and saying atheism is a religion. And Gary Glitter is a paedophile." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "I don't see how my existence insults you? It's not my fault I am more intelligence and well readed and pointed out flaws in your argument that you could not answer. I don't see why its so important to you if Atheism is a religion or not anyway, at the beginning of the conversation you didn't even understand what an atheist was until I explained it to you. I don't see what gary has to do with out conversation or with my profile pic." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "For fuck's sake, it is "intelligent" not "intelligence" and I seem to have more of it than you do since you clearly don't understand the existence insulting me being an insult itself. And I do understand what one is because I am one, you mongoloid cunt. And ever heard of Catholic Church sex abuse cases?" (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "You were confused between an Atheist and an Anti-theist, based on your comments you seem to be against religion which makes you an Anti-theist not an atheist, so no, you do not understand what one is, nor are you one. Can you explain how my existence insults you please? I do not feel the same way towards you despite how you are talking to me. Calling me the c word, I don't understand, its just further proof you have lost the argument and have to resort to insults. I have heard about the Catholic abuse cases but I don't see what that has to do with me or my profile pic." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "1. I am an atheist. I just criticise religion and an antitheist is a type of atheist. 2. Don't worry. I think you are very intelligent...if only you were compared to the retarded children." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "It is slightly different to an atheist just like a catholic is slightly different to a protestant, luckily I was intelligence enough to let you know. There are plenty of retarded children who are very intelligence sir, its pretty low to resort to insulting disabled children anyway and considering I am the smarterest out of the two of us its probably not a good idea to call me stupid, it just makes you look worse. Once again you didn't answer my questions, you didn't tell me why my existence insults you and you didn't explain what child abuse has to do with me or my profile pic, its kind of weird to bring something like that up for no reason sir. " (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: ""Smarterest"? Ha ha ha. God, you are so stupid. I was wrong. The retarded children ARE smarter than you. It is "intelligent" not "intelligence" you fuckwit. I actually use correct grammar and spelling and I understand you have no knowledge of my Catholic child sex abuse joke and my "existence" insult. But I won't explain because it is funny how even the most retarded people would understand those." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "You resort to swearing and insults so you shouldn't be critiquing my grammar sir. If I'm stupid sir then how come you had to resort to insults and changing the subject when you had no answer to my questions or when I showed to be more well-readed than you? You wont explain those things to me because, just like your earlier points you do not know what you're talking about. You shouldn't joke about sex abuse sir, if you're going to do that then you lose any right to tell others their existence offends you, I also find it strange you brought it up to begin with." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "You should know what they mean. I shouldn't need to explain it to you. Swearing and insulting is a smart way of winning this battle and many people hate bad grammar and swearing Nazis. "Wont" should be "Won't". I am tired of you pretending to prove your point when profanity are only fucking words, atheism is no religion and stupid people can't understand sarcasm, jokes or insults. Now fuck off, since you said you shouldn't bother with YouTube earlier, you dumbass cunt." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "This isn't a battle sir, its a simple discussion and in every sense you have lost that discussion. So its time you apologized for your behaviour and for your language, I find it hard to believe you are really an atheist, your anger, rudeness and lack of intelligent are traits more common amongst religious people." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "I'm sorry but I am intelligent. And I don't have to apologise for jack shit. You should apologise for being a cunt and a swearing Nazi. Those two things don't belong on the internet (except the first one does for porn). So get off the internet and realise what the internet is full of. You should have been prepared before going on the internet, my friend." (October 28, 2014)

Commenter: "Why did you not display any of this intelligence in the discussion sir? So, you're basically saying I should apologize for being a being a kind and polite person? I know those things may be intimidating to such an angry hateful person but I am not the one at fault. I have been on the internet longer than you sir and as you can see I conduct myself on it a lot better than you do, you should just save some dignity and stop making yourself look silly and apologize." (October 28, 2014)

Jackninja5: "Sorry. Although in honesty, I am only saying it to end this since I am tired of this. Don't get me wrong. I still disagree with you. I am just trying to end this." (October 28, 2014)





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